ArtR

You should be able to contact Bruce directly through the link on this Forum, without divulging his email or phone number Just go to the member section, click on his name and then click on "Send a message"

I would contact Joe Scott via this site, and while he may be busy or whatever, wait his reply. Probably your best source for a good mainspring.

Apologies....same rifle as 2/18 post, however, it has added pic with SN and notice...the price has dropped.

Must have been sleeping this past weekend...missed this one Do not remember seeing this one before Link to AA #3711

Not sure if you have seen this one. JSAR on AA Ends in about 50 minutes

Here is an interesting link...maybe free now as only one rifle is listed, not sure how long it will be out there, but a few might like to see it... Blue Book Publications - Johnson Automatics

Check with Joseph (Joe) Scott ....you can email him probably though his member link (any where you see his name highlighted in black on the forum message board)...he did have new wood available that could be fitted to your gun...would not be original...but when completed, gun would look very nice.

Maybe you have heard the saying, "the man who dies with the most toys, wins!", well, this guy must have been a real contender!!!!

Posting some quality pictures might help clear up the discussion as to what you really have and the current condition.

UPDATE I received the following email in response to one I sent to Cabela's with regard to the JSAR in question. Quote: Sir, we appreciate your concerns with originality as we are. To address your concern on a purchase, my crew nor any employee of our Gun Library system would try to pass this as a 'collector piece' and would very quickly state it to be a shooter only. Our integrity is far more important than any dollar..... You wish to pass this along to your board, the firearm has been pulled from the floor, is in process of being removed from the Internet for the time being. I have even had people track down my home phone number and call me about this gun. We have a couple of dealers we can offer it to.... Once again, thanks for your input.... Phil Reynolds Cabela's Gun Library 110 Cabela Blvd E. Dundee, MI 48131 :EndQuote

Was looking at other Cabela's links and found this item at their Hoffman Estates, IL Gun library Johnson

I worry that without proper warning, someone will purchase this piece thinking that they are getting an "original" or "collectible". Next they will visit this site looking for confirmation that they got a good deal...I do not think I could live with that. ArtR

Seems to me a while back someone was willing to make "repros" of the sling if there was a pattern, or sample. Did anything ever become of this....know that there are not many orig slings around, but I do know of some leather people who might be willing to take a crack at one

Still, IMHO, a very nice specimen. I am not aware of any reason the rear sight has "paint", unless someone did paint it. Many competitive shooters would have blackened the rear sight with carbide, and it is possible, but not probable, the carbide built up and hardened over time. The other possibility is the rear sight was replaced from another rifle. The additional stock pictures show a nice piece of wood, in very good condition, probably sanded at some time, but hard to say for sure. Well worth the $3500 you invested....wise decision...keep it!

Call me crazy or whatever, but here is a trick I learned from my maternal grandmother. She passed away 50 yeas ago. When I spent summers with her, I would help her with dusting and cleaning. Her house was an mid 1800's building with ash and walnut woodwork throughout. Really beautiful old place. One thing she used to do was "repair scratches and mars" on railings, doors, frames, and furniture. What she used as crushed walnuts. Over the years I have taken to using the same trick to "cover" nicks and scratches on my rifles. It has worked quite well. So much so, that I often will treat natural wood with pulverized walnut, balled in several layers of cheese cloth. Then I rub it to a natural sheen.

If it belonged to my grandfather, I would keep it, regardless of all the other various and justifiable reasons. If his grandfather was a WWII vet it would be an even stronger reason to keep, even if there were no further provenance. Once sold, it is gone. No amount of money could replace that family heirloom. Since his rifle has no prefix, there should be production data. If your friend is bent on selling, maybe he would sell it to you, as you seem to appreciate the rifle and its "true value".

Like Walt and Bruce said, without better pictures or hands on close examination, it is quite hard to determine exact condition. But then again, value is what one is willing to pay. Well, for $3500, I think you made a wise decision. It is certainly a good looking rifle, and will add considerable interest to your collection, and most certainly will gain value over time. Best wishes....ArtR

Personally, had I "acquired" this rifle, I would keep it! With the exception of some minor rust that shows on the sight and receiver, which is easily cleaned up, the pics you sent show a very nice rifle...keep it!

I would like to echo Ed's Holiday Greeting. Wishing one an all a very Happy Holiday Season! Keep our brothers and sisters who are in Harms Way in your thoughts a prayers throughout this season. While they are defending our Freedom, their hearts are at home with their loved ones. As Ed pointed out, we do live in a world and time that is changing. Someone sent me the link to a cartoon that probably states it the best. With the wonders of computers, we can link to it and all view it. PolitcallyCorrectCartoon?? ArtR

Even better is to put one target down range, shoot one great X and then shoot the rest as blanks, bring that target back and show how all ten shots went thru the same hole! Will really impress someone at the range!

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Joe...good advice test firing...however, only works when buying from a private seller. Most dealers, and especially gun shows, do not allow test firing. Buyer should definitely get a written three day return option in case problems are found. I can attest to this on another purchase. Luckily had return policy. Bore was dark, but thought it might clean up. Looking back should have known a good barrel would not be so dark. Anyway, on test firing, found broken extractor. While that could be replaced, the barrel was an issue. Found that barrel, after nearly 100 patches, was just too dark and gone. Dealer was very good, honored 3day inspection period, and did full refund.

Wowza...that one was not even a fraction as nice as that $7K item a few years back...methinks me needs to replace "duct tape" with "gorilla tape" on my banana box!

Thanks, Jim Sounds like a win-win! ArtR