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  2. First, not sure how current that listing is....dated June 2018. Second, from the photos listed, all in all, not terribly bad for a 75+ year old rifle. Looks like at one point metal on right side of rifle (magazine) may have been against a piece of either fabric of some sort either in a cabinet or safe, which allowed some moisture to wick/touch. Right side of barrel shows some "gunrack/hanger" rash. Stock looks decent for its age, not a lot of nicks, dents or cracks. What screws are shown do not show a lot of buggering. It may be over priced, but if no one buys it, seller should figure that out. While we may not buy it, maybe someone will think that is a good price.
  3. With a little TLC it could look better.
  4. Found this one on their WTS. He is asking $5300 I have no interest in this sale. Posted for discussion only. Looks a bit rough for the asking price IMHO.
  5. I found the magazine well for your Dror kit and will send it to you. I also have the carrying handle somewhere. Price your kit accordingly.. Email me your address. Joe
  6. Awesome, thank you! I’ve just been trying to get a number since I have a couple of people interested.
  7. Your "kit" is missing the internals on the lower, bolt and bolt rear well as the receiver sections with sight and magazine well. The most difficult part to find being the magazine well. I have seen repairable sections of the magazine well bring over $500 alone. What you have would probably bring around $200
  8. I have an Israeli Dror kit that I was originally going to make into a 1944 Model Johnson but am needing to part with it to secure funds for other expenses. I’m trying to gain a general value of the kit as well as find a buyer. Feel free to comment or email me at
  9. Yeah we already knew that, but i was watching to see if it went for STUPID money like some of the others we have seen. I think that the value kind of banks on the fact that most people have no idea what it is or that it even exists. Like mine, my father bought the lower rec. in about 1966 thinking it was a 44 JLMG. It wasn't till i got involved with it and meeting you that i really had a clue Now i love it and it does cause a stir most times i take it out. Ryche
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  11. The Drors generally do not go as high as JLMG look-a-likes. $6000 is generally top dollar whereas the JLMGs go for up to $10,000.
  12. sold last night for $5640.00. guess that gives us a clue as to current value The only others i know about were made by a guy who has been mentioned before when selling "clones" of DROR and JLMG41s merged together. Ryche
  13. Orlando, I hope that someone has a few extras to sell. Several of us have been making our own over the years. I made a couple for myself from the steel banding that sometimes comes clamped around pallets, cartons, etc. I got my donor material from the local lumber company. You should find this banding at most any retail store as scrap. I had to anneal (heat) the banding in order to bend it to shape. Then heat it again to return it to it's former hardness. Let us know what works for you.
  14. I need is part that the pin latches into on forearm, I can probably make this one work but would like to have a good one if I can find one. Joseph Scott no longer makes them. Anyone have a spare to sell? Thanks
  15. At that starting price I would be amazed if there3 was even a bid.
  16. Ed, that is about all that I can make out as well, but could not confirm. 6 and4 are probably definite, but first and last number could be possibly a high or low struck 9 or 8
  17. With no front sight, I suspect it is drilled and tapped for a telescope. I once got a shortened barrel to strip for the collars because owner said muzzle blast was too intense. The forearm has no notch for a front pull pin (probably Winfield wood). Let's see what it sells for.
  18. Is that # 9648? Hard to read.
  19. Seems a pricey start but here it is:
  20. Jeed, you got yourself a rare piece at a very low price. Congratulations! The 12" short-barreled Police model will probably never be found. Two of Dad's died in house fires. I do not know if the New Haven CT PD would still have the three that they purchased back in the 1960's. Muzzle velocity was around 2650 FPS versus close to 3000 from 18" normal barrels. Total production of all Spitfires was less than 200. Your number 1100 would have been towards the end of production. Final assembly was in a large custom gun facility in Hope Valley, Rhode Island which is described in the book from info that I provided. If you are shooting the gun, use caution to make sure that the bullet is not so much fatter than the bore as to cause problems. Measure it carefully. If you give me your E-mail, I can send you our "5.7 Club" info. Write me at (E D W A R D R J O H N S O N 6 1 0) use lower case. Some folks miss the little "r" in the middle.... :-) Thanks also for the link on the Spitfire video. I don't have any problem with the various comments. Dad was ahead of his time, but we tried anyway. Ed J
  21. I was the buyer. The carbine is much nicer than I thought it would be. It looked like there was a chip in the stock & butt plate but it was some glue that came off with a finger nail. The left side of the stock looks like it had something drizzled on it that took some of the finish off. Again it looks much better than in the pictures. All metal is in mint condition. I'm still in shock at what I was able to buy it for. I don't understand why an original Johnson Spitfire would sell for 665.00 and an IAI bring over 1200.00 a couple of days later. I'm happy about it - VERY HAPPY. This is my third Johnson, I have a mint condition B series Model 1941, a mint condition Johnson Automatics barreled Mauser in .270 Win. and now the Spitfire that I've looked for for years. I would love to find an MMJ short barrel Spitfire and if I can come up with an extra 50K a light machine gun. I also have an OTT custom TC Contender barrel chambered for 5.7 MMJ. I would love to know the production numbers on the Spitfire. Canfield's book has very little information on the Spitfire and none on production other than years. If you haven't seen it, here is a link to the NRA video on the Spitfire - it is number 1001
  22. I bought my star washers and correct screws from Joe Scott a couple of years ago. They work great! Prior to obtaining them, I could not keep the stock tight. They are a must have.
  23. Thank you for the explanation. I appreciate it. None of the screws on my rifle have the lock washers, sounds like I need to find some
  24. I have an idea what their image is showing. The stock screws normally have an internal star washer next to the head and then a special flat washer which threads onto the screw next to the wood. If you look at the screws, they have the threads cut away near the head, which allows the threaded washer to rotate and remain stationary against the wood , when tightening. Being threaded on, prevents loss of the two washers. A few early screws were slotted for a fiber insert to prevent loosening, similar to Nylock screws, It only worked for one time and they went to the reuseable lock washer arrangement. The image may be for one of these early inserts. I have seen one or two early insert screws which were never installed due to unsatisfactory loosening. Sometimes you see a screw with insert still in the slot but can't tell its original purpose as the fiber matches the threads. If you want that arrangement, cut a piece of flat Nylon slightly wider than screw diameter in addition to lock washers.
  25. Anyone???
  26. Image #7, if you download and save and then open with an image viewer, and expand, you can pick out 3923
  27. My eyes aren't that good. Is it a JSAR or a JSLMG receiver? If it is JSAR, #3923, we might be able to track history. Brian also has the file disk.
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