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Thanks much, Ed! I hate to actually pay for these plans, but may have to as I've found a very talented stock maker who's making a JSAR stock for me now. The problem is that while he has an original stock for a pattern, he does not own a M1941 and thus could not see the reasons that the original was made the way it was, including the hollowing out the wood under the recoil spring tube, which is of course done so that the boss on the tube will clear during installation. Anyway, I'm working very closely with him. His first effort (below) had to be rejected only because the otherwise beautiful walnut blank had considerable white wood in it. When we can get it right, I'll post his contact info. This repro will have both the correct visible laminations at the magazine bulges (if desired) as well as the lightening/storage cavities under the butt plate. This repro will not be too "skinny", in other words, it will have the correct exterior dimensions and will not be copied from a reproduction or an example that has been over sanded. Any wood can be used, from a rather plain looking military grade walnut, to whatever fancy grade or wood one might desire. He makes the matching fore stock, as well, also from an original pattern. These will be neither cheap nor inexpensive.

Here's a link to a completed auction that has many good photos of M1941 A5469. http://www.gunauction.com/search/displayitem.cfm?itemnum=10431383 I would have expected the forward barrel bushing to be marked ".30-06" and "41" if original.

Looks mighty fine indeed!

OUTSTANDING G503, Steve! Looks very complete. Gee, I wonder if a M1941 rifle will fit the universal rifle rack? I have not yet tried it.

Pics! We want pics, Steve! BTW, here's my own WWII Jeep, a 1943 MB:

Not criticism, just a suggestion.

Sounds like a "no". A central WTS/WTB location would serve several functions, all of which are now lacking: It would let members know that offering or seeking specific items is allowed, and it would keep such entries from cluttering dedicated boards. It would also make offers and wants easier to find, being all in one place. Rules for conduct could easily be established, say, excluding large outside dealers trolling for business and allowing only hobbists or small scale dedicated manufacturers such as Joe Scott. Included could be a section for feedback so that the occasional bad egg can be quickly identifed. The "fun" is still there; it's just centralized, sanctioned, and better organized.

This is well worth your time: http://www.practicallyshooting.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=5705

Maybe just need a WTS/WTB section?

I'll bet that the new wire will take cold blue just fine.

10 minutes. Wow! Nice price, if it's in good shape.

They are a bit addicting!

Winfield tended to buff the metal work before bluing. Many had a high polish finish. JSAR reciever markings were originally roll marked so a tiny bit of metal was displaced during marking. This resulted in alphanumerics with slightly raised edges. If the markings today are smooth it probably means the the gun no longer has its original finish, even if it's presently parked.

Looks like a nice rifle! Unlike some sporters, this one does not look to have had the metal disturbed. The bayonet mount and front sight look original.

Unfortunately, original production records exist only for the rifles that had serial numbers without the letter prefix. Bayonets were not originally produced with serial numbers. Those that bear serial numbers were so marked while in foreign service, generally in South America.

Unlocking starts AFTER the bullet leaves the muzzle. Case opturation has nothing to do with "hard" ejection. That's caused by worn out guns and weak recoil springs. After just a few rounds any residual lube is gone, anyway. Years ago I saw an ad for a "mint" M1941. I thought, 'Yeah, sure' and ordered the gun. Sure enough, it showed up and was indeed in original unissued condition. Recoil is mild, and the gun piles fired cases just a couple of feet away. The action seems to cycle gently, almost as an afterthought. There's none of the violent action that others complain of. The gun certainly doesn't fling cases to the other end of the firing line. That's the difference, I think, between a gun that's functioning as designed and one that isn't.

I'd like to find a nice M1941 stock as well. A repro would do. I have one on the gun now, but it was provided "skinny". Would like one that would finish to the original dimensions and contours, and to which the original butt plate would fit properly.

What do you guys think of this one? I especially like the mint battered butt plate and perfect, untouched buggered screws. http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=255598930

This auction ended today. The bidding reached $6,000 without the gun making its reserve. Not bad for a piece that I wouldn't buy with your money!

The gun has been refinished, with considerble buffing to the original finish milling. Also, the rear sight assembly (all of it) has been painted. As the gun left the factory, only the leaf and ears were painted, with all other parts parked. Originally, the bolt handle and extractor would have been blued.

I believe Joe's right. Those stamps are a sure sign that the gun (or at least the butt plate) spent some time in South America.

Hello, I'll be selling my M1941 Johnson rifle soon, probably on Gunbroker. My question: where should I set my reserve? The gun has a "B" serial suffix and almost all of its original finish, thinning slightly at a few edges. The chamber and bore are mirror bright, except for the 4 inches or so near the muzzle, which has a little very light fuzz in the grooves. This is not wear; I believe it was from improper storage. Lands are dead sharp, as is the muzzle, which has no wear or belling. Internals are pristine, also with no wear. The original butt plate has no battering, but is going bright at the edges. The original finish has not yet begun to thin on the magazine, loading gate, and bolt handle. There are two reproduction parts, the butt stock and recoil spring, which measured under 10 1/2", so it was replaced. The original butt stock was also in marvelous condition, except that it had been heavily damaged along the top of the comb. It looked almost as if beavers had been after it, and I could not figure out a way to invisibly repair the damage. The new butt stock is of dense, straight grained walnut which matches the forward grip for color, grain, and sheen. I added the walnut laminations at the magazine bulges and these look just right. I ran 60 rounds of surplus GI M2 ball through this gun one afternoon long ago and found this to be a tight, highly accurate rifle with perfect function. Ejection is not violent with cases flung just a few feet. Many thanks, all! Howard

I added the laminations to a reproduction stock just as described above. It wasn't what I'd call an easy job, but it went very well and the stock looks just right. I sanded the bulges off with a belt sander until the stock was 2" thick. Walnut blocks were added using Gorilla glue and clamps, and then worked on down to shape. Finish sanding of the whole stock was done with a block, so the surface is not wavey. I stained the butt stock to match the grip stock, which I didn't touch. I've done little or no woodworking in the past, but this came out just fine. Really nice, in fact, IIDSSM.

Haven't been on the boards with any frequency for quite some time. I read with interest the post by one JAR owner with all kinds of rifle issues, including heavily dented cases and cases flung into the next county. He was using commercially loaded ammunition. I lucked into many wooden cases of Danish M2 ball ammuntion, all dating from the early 1960s. I've used this exclusively in my JAR, understanding that this (M2) is the ammunition for which the rifle was desiogned. Function has always been flawless, and the rifle throws the cases, undamaged, into a neat pile just a few feet from my right. I've used nothing else, other than the occasional odd lot of USGI ball M2 ammo. Is ammunition selection/loading critical on these rifles?

I have a M1941 Johnson magazine for sale. It's in truly excellent condition with no dents or corrosion. The exterior finish is thinning only slightly. The serial is D5437. It's not been messed with in any way. This is the magazine only, with no gate, pins, or springs. Please PM with an offer if interested.