LoboMike

Thanx Brian. I may just get a replacement assembly as the stock only has a single plus and I'd like to preserve it. Mike

Any tips or advice on removal of butt stock internal parts? I'm hoping to replace the current sporter stock with a military stock. TIA Mike

IIRC some Italian & French underground units were issued M1941's. Very few for certain. HTH

LoboMike's shirt arrived today, FANTASTIC and thanx very much! Mike

I have the 7mm barrel and have a question. It's much stiffer than the barrel it replaces. Is it typical a new barrel will fit tighter? It's mostly at the "radiator" that it's tight. Should I remove the parking at the baring at the "radiator" point. Sorry for the amateur nominclature. Mike

Well I bit on this one! Not entirely sure why though. Now I have to prepare to buy and reload another round. Oh well. I'll try it on my Sporter once I have everything. Mike

I put in a minimum bid, but lost it late. Probably should have gone for more, but bucks are a bit tight this time of year. FWIW

Not sure how I miised that Walt. I'll get check into tomorrow's mail. Sorry for the delay. Mike

Did I miss the remittance instructions? Let me know and I'll get a check out. Mike

Great I'm getting excited! Not promoting it, but PayPal (or similar) might be a payment alternative. The down side is everyone would have to have an account. HTH Mike

Joe, I'd also add be sure the shooter is not "limp wristing" while firing. My sporter can produce a double by "bump firing" if the rifle is not secured to the shoulder. I did check all you suggested & it was as spec'd. Also, did you get my private email about restoring the sporter to mil configuration? Mike

I'm in for a shirt, size large. Thanx Mike

FWIW I emailed the seller and asked if the .308 barrel had been fired, and the response was no and they couldn't test fire it for me. They expressed they would not guarrantee it cycled and/or functioned in the M1941. I was thinking ammo cost savings. HTH

Walt, I need educating, what is Dardicks? Thanx Mike

At a shoot this month we had an interesting experience with my Johnson Automatics M1941 Sporter. First I fired 10 or 15 rounds without incident and excellent functioning. Fellow shooter tried the rifle and had an issue, the rifle fired, cycled and didn't fire on the next loaded round. Did this maybe three consecutive times. Unfired shells showed a very light dimple, which I believe was from the firing pin inertia upon bolt closing. I found the receiver/bolt a little dirty, so cleaning and lubing appeared to solve the problem. I think a combination of dirt and "soft" shooting absorbed much of the recoil operation resulting in the hammer never coming fully cocked. IMHO! Second issue was with same fellow shooter the rifle did double once. This puzzles me, any thoughts? I have not been able to duplicate this event. Could this be operator induced, as he was unfamiliar with a Johnson? TIA Mike

OK here's what I got; Where Joe has "the rear of the extractor cut comes within 3/16" of rear of op handle cut in receiver", my Sporter has 3/8" and where Joe has ", the distance from bolt face to front of receiver opening is 4.050" my Sporter appears to be approx. 3 7/8". So Ithink this confirms the recoil tube is too far forward by approx. 3/16". Joe how did this compare with the Sporter you examined? What's my next step? How do I go about fixing this, hopefully without damaging the butt stock? Can I take the butt stock from my military JASR to further test this issue? Thanx again gentlemen, Mike

OK gentlemen her's what I have so far, and thanx for all the help. The ammo was Talon M2 ball, unfortunately I do not have the bullet weight. I believe this is supposedly surplus USGI ammo "re-assembled". It is marked LC-53. Both problems occurred with the same 1st time JA rifle experience. I have not been able to reproduce either issue. I agree on the bolt not cycling enough to engage the hammer/sear. I attribute this to "weak shoulder" shooting. The doubling continues to evade me. The checks of Joe's items revealed no problems, with possible exception of the measurement of the recoil key. It is plugged and appears less than the desired 8" and I have to go back and check the firing pin stop as I forgot that one. I suspect the primer dimpling (very light) is firing pin inertia on bolt closing. Speculating while the firing pin assembly looks fine the spring may be a touch weak permitting contact with the primer and the double may have been a case of enough inertia to set off a primer. Reasonable? I believe I have an extra spring to compare/test, if not I hope they're available, Joe? I like the rifle and compare it equally for fun shooting to my military JA M1941. Am I going down the right track? Thanx again, Mike

Thanx Joe, I'll check and report back. Mike

I clearly defer to Joe, but offer the following. The first step (easiest maybe) is simply a thorough field stripping, cleaning and lubricating. If the receiver/bolt assmelies are dirty. gummed up with old lube the symptoms described are certainly possible. Anything restricting smooth recoil operation may lead to reload issues. I had a similar issue: Loaded the next round but didn't fully cock the hammer. Pull trigger, nothing, hand cycle (therefore full "recoil" operation) and fired fine. Repeated cocking failure several times. Did above cleaning and rifle function fine, and FWIW it is a Sporter. HTH Mike

Thanx Walt, much appreciated. Mike

I agree on the point about preserving the Sporter '41. While returning it to military configuration is financially wise, it destroys the history of the rifle and damages the history of the '41. Thanx for the feedback, Mike

Is it possible to confirm a JSAR Sporter was/is in fact a Winfield conversion. SRN is 4735? Also are the rocords available for SRN 2476? Thanx Mike

I'm interested, email me. Thanx

Walt, Whenever you get a chance I'd appreciate the details on 2476. Thanx Mike

Walt, Can you check 2476 when you get a chance? Thanx Mike