Just purchased a 1941 and need help on a buitplate

[rgmindian 0]

I just purchased this Johnson rifle from a dealer in CO

 

apparently it is all original but has the butt plate modified with a shotgun pad 

 

the dealer seems to think a buttplate will fit right on with no issues

 

the problem is no butplates to be found!

 

anyone know of a source for used or repor? Modifying a 1904 Springfield?

 

your advice is appreciated

[Blueheeler 0]

Picture of top of butt? Is there an inlet still present?

[Joseph Scott 0]

I have new butt plates for $30 plus $7 shipping.  One problem with going back to original plate is that the butt is sawed off flat and the shotgun recoil pad is usually glued on and has to be split off.  If your wood does not have the tongue cut-out still there, you will have to make new "tongue" opening on the shortened stock.  The cutoff stock is usually too thin for military plate and you may have to grind edges to fit.  I believe I have fixed my messaging problem, so try message.  One of our members has sucess splicing on additional wood, he may answer about this option.  

[Dutch2 0]

It looks that where the inletting for the butt plate was at the top someone cut a triangular piece out and clued in a piece of wood.

The inletting for the original butt plate will have to be redone, I did it on my Winfield after a lot of practicing on scrap pieces of wood, turned out OK.

[rgmindian 0]

22 hours ago, Blueheeler said:

Picture of top of butt? Is there an inlet still present?

I dont have the rifle yet, awaiting its arrival to see my situation with fixing the butt plate

 

22 hours ago, Joseph Scott said:

I have new butt plates for $30 plus $7 shipping.  One problem with going back to original plate is that the butt is sawed off flat and the shotgun recoil pad is usually glued on and has to be split off.  If your wood does not have the tongue cut-out still there, you will have to make new "tongue" opening on the shortened stock.  The cutoff stock is usually too thin for military plate and you may have to grind edges to fit.  I believe I have fixed my messaging problem, so try message.  One of our members has sucess splicing on additional wood, he may answer about this option.  

Thanks Joseph, I will take one from you. The seller said a 1903 butt plate fits right on with a slight modification/inletting to account for the spring and stud/screw. How can I make payment?

[rgmindian 0]

On 8/15/2021 at 5:23 PM, Joseph Scott said:

I have new butt plates for $30 plus $7 shipping.  One problem with going back to original plate is that the butt is sawed off flat and the shotgun recoil pad is usually glued on and has to be split off.  If your wood does not have the tongue cut-out still there, you will have to make new "tongue" opening on the shortened stock.  The cutoff stock is usually too thin for military plate and you may have to grind edges to fit.  I believe I have fixed my messaging problem, so try message.  One of our members has sucess splicing on additional wood, he may answer about this option.  

Joe can you email me on rgmindian@yahoo.com? my messages dont seem to be going through. Regards, Rob

[eb in oregon 0]

On 8/15/2021 at 8:36 PM, Dutch2 said:

It looks that where the inletting for the butt plate was at the top someone cut a triangular piece out and clued in a piece of wood.

I believe you're looking at a scratch and not a joint in the wood as that "joint" isn't on both sides of the stock and the grain matches perfectly.

[rgmindian 0]

On 8/15/2021 at 3:57 PM, rgmindian said:

I just purchased this Johnson rifle from a dealer in CO

 

apparently it is all original but has the butt plate modified with a shotgun pad 

 

the dealer seems to think a buttplate will fit right on with no issues

 

the problem is no butplates to be found!

 

anyone know of a source for used or repor? Modifying a 1904 Springfield?

 

your advice is appreciated

I received the Johnson and removed the existing Pachmyer butt pad. It seems about 1/2" of wood material was used and the tongue area for the buttplate was professional filled. Th messaging system does not seem to be working as I was trying to buy a butt plate from Joseph Scott. My email is rgmindian@yaoo.com if anyone has Joseph email I would appreciate it.

 

ALos I started a facebook group, hopefully some of you can jooin. I loaded up a bunch of detailed pics of my Johnson here: https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10226063982246976&set=p.10226063982246976

[camstuff 0]

Well, it looks like an original military stock.  It does look like the butt was trimmed and they skimmed the screw head just a bit. One of the lightning holes was filled when the butt pad was installed.  I have a JSAR where the butt was trimmed for a butt pad, however they trimmed the head of the large screw right off.  It looks like you could still install the metal butt plate on yours.  

[rgmindian 0]

Yeah I am hoping I can buy a repro butt plate and modify it to fit this current stock profile

 

[rgmindian 0]

On 8/16/2021 at 3:24 PM, rgmindian said:

I dont have the rifle yet, awaiting its arrival to see my situation with fixing the butt plate

 

Thanks Joseph, I will take one from you. The seller said a 1903 butt plate fits right on with a slight modification/inletting to account for the spring and stud/screw. How can I make payment? I cant seem to connect through messenger, can you email me at rgmindian@yahoo.com?